tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post1803171388561975888..comments2024-03-28T13:18:18.245-07:00Comments on Foster's Theological Reflections: Charles Gieschen, Ontology, and AngelomorphismEdgar Fosterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-89238372568599651432016-01-28T13:57:40.530-08:002016-01-28T13:57:40.530-08:00You're absolutely correct about Stuckenbruck&#...You're absolutely correct about Stuckenbruck's work: it is not an easy read. As for Rowland, your impression was correct. I would not recommend his book, if a somewhat liberal approach bothers you. <br /><br />I also don't agree with many of his conclusions, but I've found his work on apocalyptic to be helpful.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />EdgarEdgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-14404671817357909392016-01-28T09:57:30.645-08:002016-01-28T09:57:30.645-08:00Hello again Edgar,
It is nice to hear that my sma...Hello again Edgar,<br /><br />It is nice to hear that my small contributions are appreciated. As for Stuckenbruck, I have read his <i>Angel Veneration and Christology</i>, though it was about two decades ago. (<i>Google Books</i> preview <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=Ap1AKye0_kAC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.) I just now pulled the book off of the shelf to refresh my memory, and what immediately comes to mind is the wealth of Jewish texts that he brought into play. I agree with you that the book is a must read, but those who undertake this task should be prepared for a somewhat 'difficult' endeavor, for the book's style is quite 'wooden', requiring (at least for me) a high degree of concentration. <br /><br />I have not read Rowland's <i>The Open Heaven</i>, and have refrained from purchasing the book due to impressions I got from his <i>Christian Origins</i>, a book I found to be too liberal its approach to Bible. Do should think I should reconsider my reticence, and obtain it? Is it worth the money and time?<br /><br /><br />Grace and peace,<br /><br />David<br />David Waltzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966083488813749052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-442557556215024832016-01-27T12:40:42.256-08:002016-01-27T12:40:42.256-08:00Hi David,
As always, thanks for linking to these ...Hi David,<br /><br />As always, thanks for linking to these materials. I studied Gieschen, Hannah, and Stuckenbruck for the M.Th. thesis and some other works. All three of these books are worth reading along with the work of Christopher Rowland. I will definitely consider your links, though; it really helps to have things all in one place, which makes them easily accessible.<br /><br />Thanks!Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-68501523757481796042016-01-27T11:07:32.459-08:002016-01-27T11:07:32.459-08:00Hi Edgar,
Charles Gieschen's, Angelomorphic C...Hi Edgar,<br /><br />Charles Gieschen's, <i>Angelomorphic Christology - Antecedents & Early Evidence</i> is one of the most informative (and objective) treatments I have read on Christological issues. (A <i>Google Books</i> preview is available <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=ddLqKDaOQdMC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.)<br /><br />A related work by Darrell Hannah, <i>Michael and Christ: Michael Traditions and Angel Christology in Early Christianity</i>, is also worth reading (<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=qKtXVU9EQTIC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>).<br /><br />As I am sure you know that not only have early CFs equated the preexistent Jesus with the Angel of the Jehovah (and/or Michael the archangel), but some prominent Reformed theologians have also done so. Back in 2009, I published a thread on this issue: <a href="http://articulifidei.blogspot.com/2009/05/john-calvin-vs-emotional-exegesisjesus.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>.<br /><br />In the combox of that thread a respondent provided a link to 10 page document by Michael Daniels which lists numerous quotes from a number of diverse theologians who equate Jesus with Michael the archangel: <a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxjb3ZlbmFudGVydGhlb25vbXl8Z3g6NWYxNGEwZDI1NzUwZWE3Yg" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>.<br /><br />Anyway, an interesting topic for sure. Thanks for bringing Gieschen's substantive book back to mind.<br /><br /><br />Grace and peace,<br /><br />DavidDavid Waltzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966083488813749052noreply@blogger.com