tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post4923788581965536904..comments2024-03-28T13:18:18.245-07:00Comments on Foster's Theological Reflections: Did the Incarnate Son Undergo Change? (Thomas Torrance's Answer)Edgar Fosterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-76885745122574031782014-10-06T11:12:58.146-07:002014-10-06T11:12:58.146-07:00Duncan,
I've written some on MORFH in Phil 2:...Duncan,<br /><br />I've written some on MORFH in Phil 2:6ff, the idea set forth by Wuest is plausible. There is a reference in Tobit 1:13 which supports the denotation "status" or "condition" for the word although I prefer to define it (in this context) as external form/shape or outward appearance.<br /><br />For MORFH, BDAG has "form,<br />outward appearance, shape" and "gener. of bodily form 1 Cl 39:3; ApcPt 4:13 (Job 4:16; ApcEsdr 4:14 p. 28, 16 Tdf.; SJCh 78, 13)."<br /><br />This source adds that MORFH is also used of the shape or form of statues (Jos., Vi.65; Iren. I, 8, 1 and Dg 2:3. The term also describes appearances in visions<br />and Mk 16:12 tells us that Jesus appeared in a hETERA MORFH or "different form." BDAG also says, "on MORFH QEOU cp. Orig. C. Cels. 7, 66, 21; Pla., Rep. 2, 380D;<br />381 bc . . ."<br /><br />Louw-Nida has both definitions ("nature" and "visual form of something") for MORFH. It classifies Phil 2:6-7 as an example of MORFH being employed to denote "the nature or character of something, with emphasis upon both the internal and external form" whereas it<br />categorizes Mk 16:12 as an instance of MORFH being utilized to mean "visual form, appearance."<br /><br />Gerald F. Hawthorne (Word Biblical Commentary on Philippians) also points out that some scholars (such as P.M. Casey and Carolyn Osiek) have concluded that MORFH can signify "status" or "condition." It would<br />therefore be way off the mark to translate it as "nature" (if this claim were true) since the Greek<br />word would really have reference to Christ's place/standing before God and before men. Hawthorne<br />criticizes the last view because the extant literature does not appear to support it. However, Tobit 1:13 possibly uses MORPH to mean "status" or "condition":<br /><br />"the Most High granted me favor and status with Shalmaneser, so that I became purchasing agent for all his needs."Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-76503076804646187082014-10-06T06:04:44.997-07:002014-10-06T06:04:44.997-07:00Edgar,
I see someone else beat me to the post. So...Edgar,<br /><br />I see someone else beat me to the post. So what are your thoughts on Dr. Kenneth S. Wuest regarding Phil. 2:6?<br /><br />"The word 'form' is sometimes interpreted here as referring to a station in life, a position one holds, one's rank. And that is an approximation of morphe in this context. The word is used in this way when a certain grade in school is spoken of as a form."<br /><br />“The Practical Use of the Greek New Testament” pg 84. Yet another book I would like to read in detail.Duncannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-14378316469402532492014-10-06T01:48:07.378-07:002014-10-06T01:48:07.378-07:00Jesus in the form of God WHEN?
http://m.youtube.c...Jesus in the form of God WHEN?<br /><br />http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxzw81cr44Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com