tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post5194971513039197575..comments2024-03-28T22:55:23.525-07:00Comments on Foster's Theological Reflections: Revelation 17:6-8 and Astonishment/WonderEdgar Fosterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-35098570147496820762018-01-08T11:04:57.452-08:002018-01-08T11:04:57.452-08:00Not trying to argue for anything substantial, but ...Not trying to argue for anything substantial, but just thought this example is worth probing further:<br /><br />μὴ θαυμάζετε τοῦτο, ὅτι ἔρχεται ὥρα ἐν ᾗ πάντες οἱ ἐν τοῖς μνημείοις ἀκούσουσιν τῆς φωνῆς αὐτοῦ (John 5:28)Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-11408875963471725762018-01-08T11:02:52.446-08:002018-01-08T11:02:52.446-08:00Thanks, Duncan. Paper looks informative and helpfu...Thanks, Duncan. Paper looks informative and helpful for my questions.Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-24638098732860571622018-01-08T03:07:32.333-08:002018-01-08T03:07:32.333-08:00Something new that touches on your final point:-
...Something new that touches on your final point:-<br /><br />http://web.itu.edu.tr/~gbove/ACBowe.pdfDuncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14509064648619505383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-70435228683685286262018-01-07T17:15:08.880-08:002018-01-07T17:15:08.880-08:00Many good points on this link. Glad to see θαυμάζω...Many good points on this link. Glad to see θαυμάζω through a wider GNT perspective. The Jewish background for the word makes plenty of sense: according to The Englishmen's Concordance, θαυμάζω occurs some 44 times in the GNT. If memory serves me correctly, each time John uses it in Revelation, either BTG or the Beast is involved. That usage seems interesting to me and I also see how context plays an important role for understanding this verb and related words. But I assent with the material you posted--many good points.<br /><br />From another perspective, Aristotle writes: διὰ γὰρ τὸ θαυμάζειν οἱ ἄνθρωποι καὶ νῦν καὶ τὸ πρῶτον ἤρξαντο φιλοσοφεῖν, ἐξ ἀρχῆς μὲν τὰ πρόχειρα τῶν ἀτόπων θαυμάσαντες, εἶτα κατὰ μικρὸν οὕτω προϊόντες<br /><br />(Metaphysics 1.982b)Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-20754871427642446162018-01-07T03:08:19.075-08:002018-01-07T03:08:19.075-08:00https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QuwhBQAAQBAJ&a...https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QuwhBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=θαυμάζω+john&source=bl&ots=S1wT7cBnjl&sig=pRtSj1nyu18XQlE06lWtDDpIcVw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD9MGr2sXYAhWILcAKHdQcD64Q6AEIXzAQ#v=onepage&q=%CE%B8%CE%B1%CF%85%CE%BC%CE%AC%CE%B6%CF%89%20john&f=falseDuncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14509064648619505383noreply@blogger.com