tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post6734716835919656829..comments2024-03-28T13:18:18.245-07:00Comments on Foster's Theological Reflections: Trinitarian Redactors, Novatian and OrigenEdgar Fosterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-54524049454856517422011-01-05T10:08:12.286-08:002011-01-05T10:08:12.286-08:00Edgar,
I was reading your Christology book on Jeho...Edgar,<br />I was reading your Christology book on Jehovah.to<br /><br />I noticed you quote Origen's Commentary on John, specifically where it says that 'made by the Logos' [bk 2, sec 6], If you check the Greek Text (PG 14), It uses "dia", so it seems there's a little 'Christological redaction' on the part of ANF<br /><br />Your Brother,internethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14549118197380603866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-11924928235690196862010-12-24T11:45:23.156-08:002010-12-24T11:45:23.156-08:00Thanks for posting these links. I actually used po...Thanks for posting these links. I actually used portions of this dissertation for my own research about 2 years ago, but I had forgotten the URL for this study. Good stuff, although I disagree with his conclusions.Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-13810195965971333982010-12-11T10:15:38.667-08:002010-12-11T10:15:38.667-08:00Hi Edgar
Apologies the link above was not the one...Hi Edgar<br /><br />Apologies the link above was not the one I thought it was.<br /><br />Here (below) you can download the whole thesis:<br /><br />http://www.rememberrome.com/dissertation.html<br /><br />Chapter 3 has the history of the text which was the article I wanted to point you to.<br /><br />I have not read the rest. It appears he does try to argue for a Trinitarian explanation of Novation.<br /><br />He has a full translation in two pdf's, one has a reconstrution of the last three chapters that were tampered with in the 15th Century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-76751061782036217352010-12-11T01:23:50.509-08:002010-12-11T01:23:50.509-08:00Hi Again
Heres Chapter 4 on PDF
www.rememberrome...Hi Again<br /><br />Heres Chapter 4 on PDF<br /><br />www.rememberrome.com/Chapter6.pdf <br /><br />Its great stuff.<br /><br />Like to hear your opinion sometime.<br /><br />See ya.Matt13weedhackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16643587467702969643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-47391167931941585732010-12-11T01:06:22.271-08:002010-12-11T01:06:22.271-08:00Hi Edgar
I found that reference I was talking abo...Hi Edgar<br /><br />I found that reference I was talking about.<br /><br />“Between Two Thieves”<br />The Christology of Novatian as “Dynamic Subordination,” Influenced by His Historical Context, and His New Testament Interpretation.<br />By James Leonard Papandrea Ph.D. Dissertation, 1998, Northwestern University.<br /><br />Or THE HISTORY OF THE TEXT OF THE DE TRINITATE<br /><br />It can be found on the web.<br /><br />I will get the link when I can.<br /><br />It is excellent reading and shows how badly his writings have been tampered with. It gives examples of the changed texts and translations along with it.<br /><br />Matt13weedhacker.Matt13weedhackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16643587467702969643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-73832287628470187032010-11-24T13:03:54.082-08:002010-11-24T13:03:54.082-08:00Thanks Edgar.
My computer died a couple of weeks ...Thanks Edgar.<br /><br />My computer died a couple of weeks ago and I was not able to post any responses to your comments.<br /><br />Very interesting indeed.<br /><br />Jerome and Rufinus both comment on Novation in their respective Apologies in defense of their translations of Origen. Rufinus ascribes it to Cyprian and Jerome points out it is in fact Novation's work. <br /><br />I was going to post comments and extracts from them on my blog, until my daughter decided to do some dusting and clogged the CPU fan and fried my computer.<br /><br />There is another extensive work on Novation and the successive changes made even by modern copyists in the 1500's. I cannot remember the name off hand, it is on my old computer and when I recover the files (if possible) from it's hard drives I will give you the references.<br /><br />Have a great day.Matt13weedhackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16643587467702969643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13958708.post-56991022332845483192010-11-24T08:58:23.746-08:002010-11-24T08:58:23.746-08:00This information was already on the blog. But I...This information was already on the blog. But I'll leave it here for a few days before deleting it since it's redundant.Edgar Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280475259670777653noreply@blogger.com