Monday, March 15, 2010

Revelation 1:18 Translation

There has been some discussion on another forum regarding Revelation 1:18. I now want to report what I have found pertaining to the translation of 1:18 and I would like to retrieve some input. How might one render ἐγενόμην νεκρὸς καὶ ἰδοὺ ζῶν εἰμι?

The Greek Text: καὶ ὁ ζῶν, καὶ ἐγενόμην νεκρὸς καὶ ἰδοὺ ζῶν εἰμι εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων καὶ ἔχω τὰς κλεῖς τοῦ θανάτου καὶ τοῦ ᾅδου (UBS5).

Some translations of the verse:

"I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!"
(NIV)

"and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore" (ESV)

"and the living one: and I became dead, and behold, I am living to the ages of
ages" (Darby)

"He that liveth, and was dead" (People's NT of 1891)

"and he who is living, and I did become dead, and, lo, I am living to the ages of the ages" (YLT)

"I am he who lives, I have been dead" (Lattimore)

"and the Living one; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades" (ERV).

Commentators:

Wilfrid J. Harrington (Sacra Pagina Commentary on Revelation) prefers the rendering "I am the first and the last, the living one who was dead." Concerning this treatment of the verse, he writes:

"Charles (1:31) rightly maintains that the text should be rendered as given in our translation" (See Harrington, Revelation, page 51).

Alford writes: "and I was (not HN, but EGENOMHN, ----I became: it was a state I passed into) dead, and behold I am alive for evermore" (see The Greek Testament by Henry Alford, IV:559)

Robertson's Word Pictures: "And I was dead (KAI EGENOMHN NEKRO[S]). 'And I became dead' (aorist middle participle of GINOMAI as in John 1:9 John 1:10, definite reference to the Cross)."

Jamison, Fausset and Brown: "and was--Greek, 'and (yet) I became.'"

Bengel's Gnomon: Ἐγενόμην νεκρὸς, I became dead) It might have been said, ἀπέθανον, I died: but in this passage with singular elegance it is said, I became dead, to denote a difference of times, and of the events in them.

What do you think?

5 comments:

Matt13weedhacker said...

Revelation 1:18?

Here's a rough go at it!

"And [I was] Alive! And [yet I] came to be dead, and 'behold'! I am living into the ages of infinity! Also [I] have the keys of death and of hades."

I'm not very good on tenses, and voice. I only know the basics, but still learning!

Matt13weedhacker said...

Revelation 1:18?

Literally: "And the Living, and came to be dead and behold, living I am into these ages of the ages and having the key's (of) the (of) death and (of) the (of) Hades"

Matt13weedhacker said...

Compare Rev 1:18 with 1st Peter 3:18, 19;

The (μὲν)(δὲ) construction coupled with the exact paralell phrases of equal weight:

θανατωθεὶς (μὲν) σαρκὶ
"put to death ... flesh"

ζῳοποιηθεὶς (δὲ) πνεύματι·
"made alive ... spirit"

Is a common construction in Greek prose to show a contrast. Put them together and you have a change of (sate) thats talked about in Rev 1:18! Verse 19 (ἐν ᾧ) = the sphere "in which" or NWT "in this state..." this took place. Also cross reference 1st Tim 3:16.

It also reminds me the change of state that took place in John 1:14; Phil 2:5-11; the emptying (ἐκένωσεν) of (μορφῇ θεοῦ) God's form of existance ie: "God is a spirit" and then (ἀλλὰ) = contrast (μορφὴν δούλου λαβών) "took" another FORM of existence Psa 8:6; Heb 2:7,9; (ἠλάττωσας) "(made) a little (less) than (elohim) LXX angels" = spirit "mode/state of existance" and (σὰρξ ἐγένετο) "flesh came to be".

Also 1st Cor 15:45 ἐγένετο ... ὁ ἔσχατος Ἀδὰμ εἰς πνεῦμα ζῳοποιοῦν. "the second Adam (ἐγένετο) came to be a life giving spirit".

From spirit form of existence then change of state to flesh form of existence then change of state to death to change of state to being made alive in the spirit, living from then on into ages of infinity!

Anonymous said...

In this manuscript of Revelation 1:17, why does it say Firstborn and last?

Rev 1:17 [Codex Alexandrinus (Royal MS 1 D VIII) (A02) (5th century)]125rc2
και οτε ειδον αυτον επεσα προς τους ποδας αυτου ως νεκρος και εθηκεν την δεξιαν αυτου χειρα επ εμε λεγων μοι μη φοβου· εγω ειμι ο πρωτοτοκος και ο εσχατος·

ο πρωτοτοκος και ο εσχατος· = the firstborn and the last-

I put this in a few translators online, and most show firstborn and last. One showed firstborn and lastborn.

https://greeknewtestament.net/re1-17

Edgar Foster said...

Here's is Philip Comfort's explanation. He says that Codex Alexandrinus is the only text to call Jesus the Firstborn and the Last. Then Comfort writes:

"The context prompted this change inasmuch it speaks of Jesus as being the one who passed through death (1:18). As such, he is 'the firstborn from the dead' (see Col 1:18). The same change appears in 2:8 in Codex Alexandrinus."