Saturday, May 29, 2010

IS THE TRINITY AN EXPLICIT BIBLE TEACHING? (Some Revisions)

IS THE TRINITY AN EXPLICIT BIBLE TEACHING?

The foundational teaching of theology is the ontological dogma of the Trinity. Owen Thomas remarks that "in the doctrine of God the most fundamental thing we have to say is that God is self-revealed as triune, as threefold, as Father, Son and Holy Spirit" (Thomas "Intro" 59). Thomas F. Torrance concurs by stating:

"there is in fact no real knowledge of God except through his revealing or naming of himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for the three Persons are the one true God" (Torrance "Christian Doctrine" 15). So according to Christian theology proper, humans cannot know God unless they know Him as a threefold Being. Supposedly this is the manner in which He has revealed Himself--as triune. Commenting further on the Trinity, Torrance adds: "the New Testament does not speak of the Holy Trinity in parts or in various statements, for it is his one indivisible Self that God utters in his revelation" (Torrance "Christian Doctrine" 43). This Protestant theologian concludes:

"the central focus of the Gospel upon the Deity of Christ is the door that opens the way to the understanding of God's triune self-revelation as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Quite clearly a theological interpretation of the New Testament Scriptures must be at once both Christological and trinitarian" (49).

It is manifest prima facie where Torrance stands vis-a'-vis the Trinity doctrine. He unequivocally testifies to its alleged truthfulness and avidly insists that it is a Biblical teaching. Despite Torrance's frequent appeal to Holy Writ, serious questions linger concerning the Trinity. Is the Trinity doctrine implied in the Old Testament? Is it explicit in the New Testament? Does the Bible teach that God is triune?

As with any theological question, scholars are divided. Some scholars contend that the Trinity is implicit in the Bible; others say it is not. Some theologians even claim that the Trinity is explicit in the New Testament. What should we think?

One reference work that thoroughly discusses this issue is the excellent book entitled _The Genesis Debate_. This anthology is filled with intriguing discussions based on Genesis. On every issue, two scholars take opposing viewpoints and argue either for or against a proposition. The crowning point of the book is when two Trinitarians discuss the issue--is the Trinity teaching implicit in the book of Genesis? One scholar answers affirmatively that the Trinity is implicit in the Bible (particularly in the book of Genesis). The other scholar says no, Genesis does not imply a Trinity. He further asserts the Trinity is not taught in the New Testament. How does this Trinitarian scholar come to this conclusion? Let's review his arguments.

The scholar I am referring to is Alan J. Hauser (professor of religion
and philosophy at App State). Although possessing definite views
regarding the triune Godhead, his ideas are remarkably objective. On page 110 of the book _The Genesis Debate_, professor Hauser (while debating Eugene Merrill) discusses his views of the Trinity with respect to the Biblical book of Genesis. Hauser contends that "the doctrine of the Trinity is not implied in Genesis 1." In this basic contention, Hauser is not alone. Even Thomas F. Torrance who believes the Trinity without equivocation, offers the same sentiments. After providing extensive documentation from the New Testament to support his belief in the Trinity, Torrance cautions:

"This does not imply that the New Testament presents us with explicit
teaching about the Holy Trinity, far less with a ready-made formal
doctrine of the Trinity, but rather that it exhibits a coherent witness to God's trinitarian self-revelation imprinted upon its
theological content in an implicit conceptual form evident in a whole
complex of implicit references and indications in the gospels and
epistles" (49).

So what is Torrance saying? Is the Trinity an explicit
Bible teaching, according to this theologian? No, it is not. What is
more, Torrance says that the revealed dogma of the Trinity derives from "implicit references and indications in the gospels and epistles." Is it wise, however, to base our understanding of God on "implicit references and indications" recorded in the Bible? Can it lead to an accurate understanding of Almighty God and the "Son of His love"?

Both Hauser and Torrance are trinitarians. Both scholars also admit that the Trinity is not an explicit Bible teaching. Torrance justifies his belief in the Trinity by appealing to implicit Old and New Testament references. What about Hauser, however? How does he justify his position? He explains:

"since there are so many other factors on the basis of which one can affirm or deny the doctrine of the Trinity, it should be obvious that a Christian can simultaneously affirm the doctrine and yet deny that it is implied in Genesis 1" (Hauser "Debate"
111).

These comments help us to appreciate two very significant points.
Firstly, we are not dealing with an adversary of the Trinity when we read the comments of Hauser. Secondly, Hauser admits that there are other factors which influence his decision to affirm the Trinity doctrine, whether it is an explicit Bible teaching or not. In contradistinction to this professor of religion, most Trinitarians say that the Trinity existed in seminal form in the Old Testament (like an acorn)--then it gradually grew into an oak tree in the New Testament (Merrill). It has also been asserted that the second and third century church taught the Trinity doctrine. There have been
many discussions back and forth over this matter and quite a few works
have been published to support both sides. But the evidence indicates
that "the doctrine of the Trinity is a relatively "late" development" (Hauser 111).

Charles Ryrie, Owen Thomas and Jaroslav Pelikan have all outlined the historical developments of the Trinity. All concur that the doctrine of the Trinity is a relatively "late" dogma. Ryrie states that the Trinity is implied in the writings of the early church (first century ecclesia), but it is not explicitly taught in those writings. It was not until 325 C.E. that a formulated creed was published, which "defined" and "clarified" the essential relationship between the Father and the Son. Even at that point, a full-blown doctrine of God' triunity did not exist. The Nicene Council only concluded that the Father and Son are ontologically one: it did not include the Holy
Spirit in the co-substantial relationship supposedly obtaining between the Father and Son. There was simply an implication that the Holy Spirit was in some way associated with the Godhead.
Yes there was an affirmation of belief in the Holy Spirit, but the
Nicene Creed did not put forth a triune statement about God. It would
take another fifty-six years and more "heretical" developments, before
the relationship between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was clarified.

Although activities were predicated of the Holy Spirit that can only be predicated of God, the Trinity was still not explicitly called God.
Further addenda or adjustments would be made before the church would
explicitly state that the holy spirit was equal to the Father and the
Son.

One early witness who testifies to these early developments regarding
the Trinity doctrine is Gregory of Nazianzus. In the work _Epistles 58_ Gregory Nazianzus explained the absence of the Holy Spirit from the ancient discussions about the Godhead, by stating that "the
Old Testament proclaimed the Father manifestly, and the Son more
hiddenly. The New [Testament] manifested the Son and suggested the
deity of the Spirit. Now the Spirit himself is resident among us, and
provides a clearer explanation of himself." As late as 380, he wrote, "to be slightly in error [about the Holy Spirit] was to be orthodox." This statement too proves that the orthodox understanding of the Holy Spirit was not "clear" until 381. As a matter of fact, this statement further demonstrates that the church neither subscribed to nor affirmed the teaching of the Trinity until 381 C.E. It is clear that the "details" of the Trinity still had to be worked
out (The Christian Tradition, Jaroslav Pelikan, Vol. I, p.
213. Cf. also Gregory Nazianzus--Orations 31.5). From a brief look at
these developments, it seems warranted to conclude that the NT does not present a clear expression of the Triune Godhead. Therefore, we could reasonably conclude that neither the primitive church nor the ante-Nicene fathers taught the Trinity. Gregory Nazianzus even proclaimed that Scripture did not, "very clearly
or very often call him [the Holy Spirit] God in so many words, as it does the Father and later on the Son" (Gregory Nazianzus, Orations 31.12).

Gregory's testimony is so important because he lived at the time when the Trinity assimilated its way into Christian didache. Concerning this prominent Christian "father," Jaroslav Pelikan says: "In remarkable summary of the controversy within the orthodox camp, composed in the same year, he [Gregory Nazianzus] declared: "Of the wise men among ourselves, some have conceived of him
[the Holy spirit] as an activity, some as a creature, some as God; and some have been uncertain which to call him . . . And therefore they neither worship him nor treat him with dishonor, but take up a neutral position." He did add, however, that "of those who consider him to be God, some are orthodox in mind only, while others venture to be so with the lips also."

It was apparently not only "careful distinctions, derived from
unpractical philosophy and vain delusion" that could be blamed for this confusion, but also the undeveloped state of the doctrine of the Holy Spirit in relation to the Son in the Trinity." ( The Christian
Tradition, Jaroslav Pelikan, p. 213. Cf. Gregory Nazianzus, Orations,
21.33, 31:5. Also Basil, On The Holy Spirit 3.5). Gregory Nazianzus makes it very clear that the Bible is not explicit in the matter of the Trinity. It does not call the holy spirit God "very often or clearly." In fact, German theologian Karl Rahner writes that the NT never applies the Greek term QEOS to the holy spirit. It is also of interest that Scripture never enjoins Christians that prayer should be offered to the Holy Spirit, nor are Christians ever instructed to worship the Spirit of God. These omissions and more appear strange if the Spirit is fully God. Furthermore, we read that "the liturgical usage of the church did not seem to provide instances of worship or prayer addressed to him [The Holy Spirit]" (The Christian Tradition, Vol. I, p. 212). Based on the foregoing information, it seems that one may safely conclude that Hauser's conclusions are valid when he says that the Trinity is of a relatively late origin:

"While the church eventually came to view as
heretical many of the positions presented by early
Christian writers about the nature of Christ, his
person and work, the relationship of the Father to
the Son, etc., most of these nonorthodox positions
are not specifically and unequivocally ruled out by
the New Testament itself. Many of those whose
teachings were later declared unorthodox
maintained that certain New Testament passages
supported their views and argued, sometimes
eloquently, in support of such claims. They could not
have done so if the New Testament were so clear in
delineating the doctrine of the Trinity that positions
other than those eventually spelled out by the
councils were automatically ruled out. We do well to
remember that, on balance, most heretics were not
evil persons who deliberately tried to pervert the
teachings of the New Testament. Many of them were
sincere and well-intentioned interpreters who
advocated theological positions that the Church, in
its wisdom, eventually came to view as wrong" (128).

Lest it be concluded from the above-quoted material that Hauser
denounces non-Trinitarian Christians, note the following:

"There is an excellent example in Mark 15:33-36 of the way in which
different people will place the same words in different contexts . . .
The evangelist, writing for a Christian audience, leads his readers to
understand Jesus' words as an expression of the spirit of affliction
described in Psalm 22. Those standing by the cross, however, understand the same words in the context of their suspicion that Jesus was a messianic revolutionary who planned a rebellion against Rome and conclude that Jesus still expects help from Elijah . . .Thus the same words are understood in two different ways by persons who place them in different contexts of meaning" (128).


Hauser further asseverates that neither John 1, Colossians 1 nor
Hebrews 1 explicitly spell out the doctrine of the Trinity. These
verses "are only individual statements and ideas, which were later
incorporated into the church's doctrine"
(129).

Further evidence is thus provided that the Trinity evidently is not a clear Bible teaching. We must therefore pose the query, should we put faith in a doctrine that does not have explicit Bible support?

Continuing with Hauser's analysis of the explicitness or lack thereof
vis-a'-vis the Trinity, we now turn to the book of Genesis and what it
has to say about the triune Godhead. Genesis 1:2 is one verse invoked
by some who believe that the Old Testament implies the Trinity. This
verse (according to the RSV) reads: "the earth was a formless void and
darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters" (NAB reads similarly).

One of the significant terms in this Scriptural passage is "wind". The Hebrew word translated "wind" is ruach. Some translations render ruach as "spirit" or "active force." Either translation is philologically acceptable. Based on the context of Genesis 1:2, however, Hauser opts for ruach meaning "wind" in this case. He bases his conclusions on the use of ruach in Genesis 6:17; 7:15; 7:22. In early church usage, it seems that there was an extensive debate about how ruach should be translated. Hauser relates: "a number of early church fathers favored 'spirit'; Tertullian vacilated; Epharaem and Theodoret favored 'wind.'" See W.H. McClellan, "The Meaning of Ruah 'Elohim in Gen. 1:2," Biblica 15 (1936) 519-20. H.M. Orlinsky, "The Plain Meaning of RUAH in Gen. 1:2," Jewish Quarterly Review 48, 174-80, cites numerous commentators . . . who argue for "wind" (129).

It is also good to note that ruach is translated "breath" in Psalm
18:15 with reference to the "breath" of God. Concerning God's "breath," Hauser explains:

"unlike the breath of all flesh, the breath (ruach) of God is clearly a powerful force, one that can shake the cosmos. Combined in the idea of the "breath of God" are the analogies of breath (as in human breath) and of a powerful wind" (114).

God is therefore said to possess "breath" in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. In actuality, God does not have "breath". This is a Biblical analogy that helps us to appreciate Jehovah's possession of an irresistible, potent, awesome invisible force through which He accomplishes His inexorable sovereign will. This "force" can "shake the cosmos" and I believe that it was employed by God to shape the universe (Ps. 33:6). Genesis does not portray this "breath" (ruach) as a persona, but rather as the active force of God the Father.


This point is suggested by a further analysis of the word ruach in Genesis and the rest of the Old Testament canon. The OT utilizes ruach to denote not only symbolic "breath" but a literal "force" (wind) as well. It is used in this manner in Genesis 8:1 (Cf. also Numbers 11:31). God is also said to walk through the Garden
of Eden in the 'breezy' part of the day. These texts show the manner in which ruach can be translated or understood. Hauser thus concludes
that "wind" (not "spirit") is the best translation of ruach in Genesis 1:2. He bases this understanding on the meaning of ruach as well as the context of Genesis 1.

Can we make a definite assertion about what the ruach is in Genesis 1:2? Was it just "wind" or the ruach Hakodesh of Yahweh? I must admit that I lean toward the idea that the ruach mentioned in Genesis 1:2 refers to God's Holy Spirit. My views are based primarily on Psalm 33:6 and 104:24ff. Although I part ways with Hauser as to what the ruach is in Genesis 1:2, I can agree that there is no implication of a Trinity in Genesis. While the ruach may belong to God, this doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit exists as some third "person" in a triune Godhead. To the contrary, God's Spirit is likened to the "breath of his mouth" in Psalm 33:6. True, God does not literally depend upon some type of "breath" to keep His life sustained--He is completely self existent, with God is the source of life, by light from Him we live and see light (Psalm 36:9)--it is therefore not literal breath discussed in Psalm 33:6, the Bible is simply using analogous language. Yet the analogy teaches us that God's Spirit is not a Person: it is a force. 1 Corinthians 2:11 seems to buttress this notion when it compares the holy spirit to the self-consciousness of God. The appearance of ruach in Genesis 1:2 thereby provides no proof for the Trinity doctrine.

Another significant word we need to analyze is Elohim. Genesis 1:2
associates Elohim with ruach. Some therefore point to the use of Elohim as proof that ruach in Genesis 1:2 denotes God's Spirit (i.e., the supposed third Person of the Trinity). Hauser insists that this is erroneous thinking for two primary reasons: 1)Elohim doesn't always mean "God." At times it can evidently mean, "awesome" or "powerful." WE RUACH ELOHIM would thus denote "a powerful wind sent from God." (Hauser, 117) This definition would harmonize with the thoughts in Hosea 13:15 and Job 30:22. At any rate, no proof would exist for calling the Spirit of God a person. To further elucidate this point, let us notice Hauser's line of
reasoning:

"Let us briefly examine the use of 'spirit of God' in the Old
Testament. The first part of the phrase, 'spirit of,' is commonly used
in the construct state in Hebrew to denote the motivating force or
dynamic power of a person or of God. In 2 Chronicles 36:22 we are told
that 'the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia' to issue
a proclamation allowing worshipers of Israel's God to rebuild His
temple (cf. Ezra 1:1). In 1 Chronicles 5:26 God stirs up 'the spirit of Pul king of Assyria - that is, the spirit of Tiglath-Pileser king of Assyria' to carry away some of the tribes of Israel" (118, 119).

Additionally:

"In these instances 'spirit of' does not denote an
entity in any way separate from the person but rather
the active, forceful power of that person (cf. also
Gen. 45:27; 2 Kings 2:15; 1 Sam. 30:12; Hag. 1:14).
Why should we presume that it is different when the
object of the phrase 'spirit of' is God? When we are
told in Judges 14:6 that the 'spirit of the LORD
came mightily upon' Samson, and that Samson tore
apart the lion, does this mean that the Holy Spirit
seized Samson? What is meant instead is that
God's power came upon Samson and gave him
strength (see also, for example, Judg. 6:34, 11:29).
There is *no hint* of a separate person within the
Godhead from the Father acting upon the individual .
. . see, for example, 2 Kings 2:16; 1 Sam. 10:6;
11:6) (119).

Thus Hauser summarizes his view of Genesis 1:2 by demonstrating very
thoroughly that the Old Testament concept of the Spirit of God is not
synonymous with the Trinitarian concept of the Holy Spirit as God. In this evaluation and analysis he is supported by P.K. Jewett who believes that the Holy Spirit (as recorded in the Old Testament) never refers to "a Person distinct from the Father and the Son," but rather "the divine nature viewed as vital energy" (Jewett qtd. by Ryrie 346). While Genesis 1:2 does not provide support for a triune God, there are other passages that scholars turn to in Holy Writ to buttress the Trinity doctrine. In particular, some Trinitarians appeal to Elohim passages.

One of these verses is Genesis 1:26. The ancient lawgiver Moses there
recorded "And God said, 'Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness.'" To support their position, Trinitarians often invoke this
verse as proof that God is triune. Does the fact that Genesis 1:26 uses the word "us," and also employs the plural
possessive pronoun "our" mean that Genesis 1:26 endorses or adumbrates the ontological dogma of the Trinity? Before we hastily conclude that this is the case, please note the comments of Charles Ryrie:

"We have . . . suggested that the plural
name for God, Elohim, denotes God's unlimited greatness and supremacy. To conclude plurality of Persons from the name itself is dubious. However, when God speaks of Himself with plural pronouns (Gen. 1:26, 3:22; 11:7; Isa. 6:8) and plural verbs . . . it does seem to indicate distinctions of Persons, though only plurality, not specifically Trinity" (51).

Hauser expands on this argument. He does not think that the use of the
Elohim in Genesis 1:26 proves that Genesis teaches God's triunity. One reason that Hauser concludes this has to do with the Hebrew
word Elohim. Granted, Elohim is morphologically plural as are "us" and "our." But these words, while they might seem to indicate plurality, definitely do not suggest triunity. It must also be kept in mind that in Hebrew it is common for the plural noun to cause the verb to be plural (Cf. Genesis 20:13, 35:7). E.A Speiser therefore renders Genesis 1:26 as follows: "The God said, 'I will make man in my image, after my likeness.'"


Commenting on Deuteronomy 6:4 and its use of Elohim, Baptist seminarian president John. D.W. Watts reports that Elohim conveys "to the Semitic ear the idea of the total sum of divine attributes and powers . . . 'One Lord' conveys the essential idea. He is unique, different, exclusive. He is not many, but one . . . Yahweh is a single unified person. In no sense is he to be understood as represented in diverse forms and appearances in different
places as Baal and other nature deities were" (The Broadman Bible
Commentary, Vol. 2, p. 214).

There is also another probable explanation for Genesis 1:26 and its use of "us" for God. The Hebraic expert Gesenius described the Hebrew word for "us" as a "plural of self-deliberation." Both Gesenius and C. Westermann have upheld this view and classed Isaiah 6:3 in the same category. In other words, what Gesenius says is that God could have been talking or 'deliberating' with Himself at Gen. 1:26. While this is a grammatical possibility, I personally concur with the view which holds that the Father (Jehovah) was addressing His Son at Genesis 1:26 when he said "us" and "our." The New Testament would also appear to support such a conclusion (Col. 1:15-17). At any rate, if God spoke to His Son, this still would not prove the Trinity. Only two persons would be involved, not three. The view that God was "self-deliberating", however, cannot be easily discounted and seems less problematic.

From all these points, what are we to conclude? The weight of the
scholarly and Biblical evidence is that Genesis does not imply a
Trinity. The ruach mentioned at Genesis 1:2 is ambiguous and the plural pronouns found in Genesis 1:26 also don't per se indicate a Trinity, but possibly a plurality. The O.T. does not contain the Trinity in seminal form, but teaches about a God who is truly ONE--the God of the Shema, whose name is Jehovah.

Regards,

Edgar

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Concerning the holy spirit John 20:22 says, And after he said this he blew upon them and said to them: Recieve holy spirit. This fits in nicely with ruach being or having to do with breath. Clearly the holy spirit is distributed like a breath. Not a person.

Edgar Foster said...

That is a good point. I've also heard some commentators associate the verse that you mention with Genesis 2:7 wherein YHWH "blew" the breath of life into the nostrils of Adam. I have no problem with the allusion as long as one does not try to make Trinitarian hay out of the comparison. :)

Anonymous said...

Doesn't Malachi 3:1 prove the Trinity? God is coming and Jesus is coming.

Edgar Foster said...

You only have 2 in this case--God and Jesus. But it does not prove the Trinity anyway, just because both are coming/come. Christ's disciples do things imputed to him, but that doesn't make them the same. One other thing, Trinitarians normally argue that Jesus = God, but God (the Trinity) does not = Jesus. Jesus is supposed to be the second person of the Trinity. In that case, he would be distinct from the 1st and 3rd persons of the triune Godhead.

Anonymous said...

Scriptures point to Christ as God. The spirit of God is the spirit of Christ. They are one and the same per Romans 8:9. This shows Jesus is the God and Holy spirit and dwells within us.

In Romans 8:11
11 But if the ��Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell >>in you<<, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his ��Spirit that dwelleth in you.

What spirit is Paul saying dwells in you?

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the ����Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba����, Father.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the ����Spirit of God >>dwell in you<<. Now if any man have not the ����Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The spirit of God that dwells in you is the spirit of Christ. That’s repeatedly stated through all scriptures.

This shows Jesus is God and the Holy spirit

Anonymous said...

"However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you," (Romans 8:9-11).

This passage is one of the Bible's often overlooked testimonies to the truth of the Trinity. Of course, Paul is not teaching about the Trinity in these verses, but when we pay close attention we see that he is assuming the Trinity as common ground between himself and his readers. The language of the passage only makes sense from a Trinitarian perspective. Take note of the phrases Paul uses to describe the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in believers:

"the Spirit of God dwells in you."
"have the Spirit of Christ."
"Christ is in you."
"the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you."
Paul interchangeably called the Holy Spirit the "Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ." This makes no sense if Jesus is not God. We wouldn't interchangeably talk about the "Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Michael the Archangel." We would not consider the "Spirit of God" to be the same spirit as "The spirit of that really important human teacher." Indeed, this passage equates the Spirit of God dwelling in you with Christ Himself dwelling in you, which is not something that one could say for any man, angel, or lesser "divine being." Yet, there are also careful distinctions here. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, but He is also the Spirit of "Him who raised Christ from the dead." Thus, the Father and the Son are distinguished from one another. Christ and He who raised Christ from the dead are distinct and interactive persons in this context. Thus, we are not talking about one person who sometimes acts as Father, sometimes as Son, and other times as Spirit. We are talking about one God who is Father, Son, and Spirit all at once and interactively. One God, three persons.

We see this further in the rest of the Chapter. The Spirit intercedes to God on our behalf from within us, and thus is personal and distinct from God in heaven (Romans 8:26-27). Jesus is at the right hand of the Father, and also intercedes to the Father on our behalf (Romans 8:34) God is working all things together to conform believers into the image of His Son, so we see a distinction between the Father and the Son (Romans 8:28-29). Father, Son, and Spirit are all personal, distinct, and interactive with one another. Yet, the divine love that we cannot be separated from is interchangeably called the love of Christ (Romans 8:35) and the love of God (Romans 8:39). Again, we see both a unity of being and yet a personal distinction. It is true that the title "God" is generally used for the Father here, but it is equally true that we are talking about one Divine Being who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is one Spirit shared by both the Father and the Son, and yet that Spirit is personal and intercedes in prayer to them. There is one love that is both the Love of God and the Love of Christ. For the Spirit to dwell in us is for Christ to dwell in us, and yet the Spirit's intercession is distinct from Christ's intercession. The Spirit intercedes and Christ ALSO intercedes. Thus, we see that throughout this passage assumes one God in three persons. This passage depends on the presupposition of the doctrine of the Trinity to even make its points. Paul and his brothers and sisters at Rome believed this together, and so Paul could write freely building his theology on these terms with no confusion.

Edgar Foster said...

The Trinity and deity of Christ are important subjects, but they're like dead horses that have been beaten ad nauseam. Nevertheless, the spirit of God could be the spirit of Christ without Christ being God. Who gave Christ the spirit? By means of whom is the spirit poured out through Christ? And the love of God is expressed through Christ: that does not mean Christ is God.

Anonymous said...

You just said
“the spirit of God could be God without being God”

Edgar Foster said...

Anonymous, that is not what I said. To quote myself verbatim:

"the spirit of God could be the spirit of Christ without Christ being God."

Nincsnevem said...

While it is true that the specific term "Trinity" is not found in the Bible, this argument overlooks the fact that many theological concepts (like "incarnation" or "original sin") are not directly named in Scripture but are derived from its teachings. The doctrine of the Trinity is a result of synthesizing various passages from both the Old and New Testaments that present God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, working together in unity yet distinct in personhood.

While the Old Testament does not explicitly teach the Trinity, it does contain hints of plurality within the Godhead. For example, in Genesis 1:26 ("Let us make man in our image"), the plural form "us" suggests a conversation within the Godhead. While some argue this could be a royal "we" or a consultation with angels, the Bible consistently attributes creation to God alone (Isaiah 44:24). Furthermore, the "Angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament often acts as God Himself (e.g., Exodus 3:2-6), and the Spirit of God is active throughout Scripture (Genesis 1:2). These suggest the involvement of more than one person in the divine nature, even if not fully developed.

The New Testament explicitly reveals the Trinity, particularly through Jesus' baptism (Matthew 3:16-17) and the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19), where Jesus commands baptism "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." This demonstrates the equality and unity of all three Persons within the Godhead. Furthermore, Jesus is described as fully divine (John 1:1, Colossians 2:9) and shares in the attributes of God, such as omniscience (John 16:30), omnipotence (Matthew 28:18), and eternity (Revelation 1:8). The Holy Spirit is also depicted as a distinct divine Person, who teaches, convicts, and guides believers (John 14:26; Acts 5:3-4).

The claim that the Trinity was a "late" development is misleading. While the formal terminology was solidified in the Nicene and Chalcedonian councils, the early Church Fathers frequently affirmed the divinity of the Son and the Holy Spirit. For instance, Tertullian (late 2nd century) used the term "Trinity" and defended it against heresies. The Councils did not invent the Trinity but rather clarified and defended what was already believed in response to heretical challenges. As St. Gregory of Nazianzus rightly noted, the development of theological language did not change the reality of God’s triune nature, but merely articulated what was always believed more clearly.

The argument that the Bible does not frequently refer to the Holy Spirit as God overlooks key passages. The Holy Spirit is described with divine attributes: omniscience (1 Corinthians 2:10-11), omnipresence (Psalm 139:7), and the ability to give life (John 6:63). Acts 5:3-4 explicitly calls lying to the Holy Spirit lying to God, affirming the Spirit’s divinity. The lack of direct references does not imply a lesser status but reflects the gradual unfolding of the mystery of God's nature throughout salvation history.

The argument that the Bible only provides "implicit" evidence for the Trinity misunderstands the nature of divine revelation. Many profound theological truths are revealed progressively, as is the case with the Trinity. Just as the doctrine of the Messiah was only fully understood in the light of Christ’s incarnation, the fullness of the Trinity was understood in light of the New Testament revelation. The Church Fathers recognized this, as Gregory Nazianzus noted: the Old Testament reveals the Father clearly, the Son more obscurely, and the New Testament fully reveals both the Son and the Spirit.

Nincsnevem said...

While the word "Trinity" is not explicitly found in Scripture, the doctrine itself is deeply rooted in both the Old and New Testaments. The New Testament presents a clear triune relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, with each possessing divine attributes and fulfilling distinct roles within the Godhead. The development of the terminology in later centuries does not negate the biblical foundation of the Trinity but rather reflects the Church's growing understanding of God's nature. Therefore, the Trinity is not a "late" invention but a faithful interpretation of the Bible's revelation of God.

You mention John 20:22, where Jesus "blew" upon the disciples and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit," arguing that this likens the Holy Spirit to breath, not a person. However, understanding the Holy Spirit simply as "breath" is a reductionist view that overlooks the broader biblical context. The act of breathing on the disciples symbolizes imparting life, power, and presence—something that goes far beyond mere breath. The Greek word for spirit, "pneuma," can indeed mean "wind" or "breath," but it also refers to a living, active, and divine Person in the New Testament. For example, the Holy Spirit speaks (Acts 13:2), teaches (John 14:26), intercedes (Romans 8:26), and can be grieved (Ephesians 4:30)—all characteristics of a person, not an impersonal force or breath.

Comparing John 20:22 to Genesis 2:7 (where God breathes life into Adam) is a reasonable analogy, but the parallels point to something greater. In Genesis, God breathes physical life into Adam; in John 20:22, Jesus breathes the Holy Spirit, imparting spiritual life and power. This does not reduce the Holy Spirit to mere breath but demonstrates the life-giving nature of the Spirit, which is a central function of the third Person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is not a mere force but actively engages in the life of the believer, regenerating, sanctifying, and empowering them (Titus 3:5, 1 Corinthians 6:11).

You state that Malachi 3:1 proves only the existence of God and Jesus, not the Trinity. Malachi 3:1 indeed mentions God and the "messenger of the covenant" (Jesus), but this does not exclude the Holy Spirit. Trinitarians do not claim that every passage about God must explicitly mention all three Persons of the Trinity. Rather, the full doctrine of the Trinity emerges from the combined witness of Scripture. The absence of a specific mention of the Holy Spirit in one verse does not diminish the doctrine, as the Bible often reveals the Trinity progressively, especially with greater clarity in the New Testament.

Nincsnevem said...

Regarding your argument that Jesus is distinct from the Father and Holy Spirit, this is precisely what Trinitarian theology teaches. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons but share one divine essence. Therefore, while Jesus is not the Father or the Holy Spirit, He is fully God, as is the Father and the Holy Spirit. Verses like John 1:1 ("the Word was God"), John 10:30 ("I and the Father are one"), and Colossians 2:9 ("in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form") affirm that Jesus is divine. The distinction of Persons does not negate their shared divinity but rather affirms the relational dynamic within the Godhead.

You argue that the Holy Spirit being given to Christ or working through Him suggests that Christ is not divine. This confuses the distinct roles within the Trinity with inferiority or subordination in essence. Throughout Scripture, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit work together in unity but with distinct roles. For example, Jesus' baptism reveals the Father speaking, the Spirit descending, and the Son being baptized (Matthew 3:16-17). The fact that Christ received the Spirit does not imply that He is inferior, but rather it highlights the relational distinctions within the Trinity.

Finally, the love of God being expressed through Christ does not imply that Christ is merely a channel and not divine. Scripture affirms that Christ is both fully God and fully man (John 1:1, 14). As the second Person of the Trinity, Christ reveals the love of God through His incarnation, death, and resurrection, but this does not diminish His divinity. In fact, only a divine Christ can fully reconcile humanity to God, as evidenced in passages like Philippians 2:6-11 and Romans 5:8.