Hello Edgar, I bought on ebay the soft cover edition from Darrell Hannah Michael and Christ. Do you recommend to start from the beginning or a certain chapter first?
Hello Philip, I view it as a personal preference, but I tend to start from the beginning. I read Hannah's book years ago, but I've consulted it over the last few years to one degree or another. My suggestion is to start from the beginning.
"The explicit evidence about the influence of Michael or other similar traditions in the New Testament, in order to demonstrate that they are the key to the origin of Christology, is very weak” (p. 220)
"I said to him, Sir, explain to me what this tree means, for I am perplexed about it, because, after so many branches have been cut off, it continues sound, and nothing appears to have been cut away from it. By this, now, I am perplexed. Listen, he said: This great tree that casts its shadow over plains, and mountains, and all the earth, is the law of God that was given to the whole world; and this law is the Son of God, proclaimed to the ends of the earth; and the people who are under its shadow are they who have heard the proclamation, and have believed upon Him. And the great and glorious angel Michael is he who has authority over this people, and governs them; for this is he who gave them the law into the hearts of believers: he accordingly superintends them to whom he gave it, to see if they have kept the same. And you see the branches of each one, for the branches are the law. You see, accordingly, many branches that have been rendered useless, and you will know them all — those who have not kept the law; and you will see the dwelling of each one. I said to him, Sir, why did he dismiss some into the tower, and leave others to you? All, he answered, who transgressed the law which they received from him, he left under my power for repentance; but all who have satisfied the law, and kept it, he retains under his own authority. Who, then, I continued, are they who were crowned, and who go to the tower? These are they who have suffered on account of the law; but the others, and they who returned their branches green, and with offshoots, but without fruit, are they who have been afflicted on account of the law, but who have not suffered nor denied their law; and they who returned their branches green as they had received them, are the venerable, and the just, and they who have walked carefully in a pure heart, and have kept the commandments of the Lord. And the rest you will know when I have examined those branches which have been planted and watered."
I am MORE than willing to say my book on the Early Christian economic practices and the Sermon on the Plain are among the best ever written on those subjects :P ... as long as "among the best" is left relatively vague :P.
I've read (not the whole thing, but sections) Stuckenbruck's volume, it's an important one, he's a great scholar of Jewish apocalyptic also.
Roman: you have done some great work on the Gospels, early Christianity and so forth. I appreciate it. And I agree that Stuckenbruck has done significant work in Jewish apocalyptic thought.
Duncan: I have no problem with Hannah's statement. If the Michael traditions had any influence, I don't see those traditions exerting much influence on early Christology.
Hi Edgar, are you still planning on doing this? Also, do you have a complete list of every book/thesis/etc. you've written? I've recently been reading through each one lf your works that I've been able to find. -Kelton ❤️
Hi Kelton, one issue is that I don't own the rights to my Christology book. So I don't know if it will be edited. My CV is somewhere on the blog. I don't mind sending it to you. Remind me if I forget.
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Didn't you also do work on this?
I did, but I want to edit my book one day if time and circumstances permit. Plus I feel funny saying it's one of the best ever 😀
Hello Edgar,
I bought on ebay the soft cover edition from Darrell Hannah
Michael and Christ. Do you recommend to start from the beginning or a certain chapter first?
Hello Philip, I view it as a personal preference, but I tend to start from the beginning. I read Hannah's book years ago, but I've consulted it over the last few years to one degree or another. My suggestion is to start from the beginning.
"The explicit evidence about the influence of Michael or other similar traditions in the New Testament, in order to demonstrate that they are the key to the origin of Christology, is very weak” (p. 220)
"I said to him, Sir, explain to me what this tree means, for I am perplexed about it, because, after so many branches have been cut off, it continues sound, and nothing appears to have been cut away from it. By this, now, I am perplexed. Listen, he said: This great tree that casts its shadow over plains, and mountains, and all the earth, is the law of God that was given to the whole world; and this law is the Son of God, proclaimed to the ends of the earth; and the people who are under its shadow are they who have heard the proclamation, and have believed upon Him. And the great and glorious angel Michael is he who has authority over this people, and governs them; for this is he who gave them the law into the hearts of believers: he accordingly superintends them to whom he gave it, to see if they have kept the same. And you see the branches of each one, for the branches are the law. You see, accordingly, many branches that have been rendered useless, and you will know them all — those who have not kept the law; and you will see the dwelling of each one. I said to him, Sir, why did he dismiss some into the tower, and leave others to you? All, he answered, who transgressed the law which they received from him, he left under my power for repentance; but all who have satisfied the law, and kept it, he retains under his own authority. Who, then, I continued, are they who were crowned, and who go to the tower? These are they who have suffered on account of the law; but the others, and they who returned their branches green, and with offshoots, but without fruit, are they who have been afflicted on account of the law, but who have not suffered nor denied their law; and they who returned their branches green as they had received them, are the venerable, and the just, and they who have walked carefully in a pure heart, and have kept the commandments of the Lord. And the rest you will know when I have examined those branches which have been planted and watered."
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02013.htm
I am MORE than willing to say my book on the Early Christian economic practices and the Sermon on the Plain are among the best ever written on those subjects :P ... as long as "among the best" is left relatively vague :P.
I've read (not the whole thing, but sections) Stuckenbruck's volume, it's an important one, he's a great scholar of Jewish apocalyptic also.
Roman: you have done some great work on the Gospels, early Christianity and so forth. I appreciate it. And I agree that Stuckenbruck has done significant work in Jewish apocalyptic thought.
Duncan: I have no problem with Hannah's statement. If the Michael traditions had any influence, I don't see those traditions exerting much influence on early Christology.
Edgar, thank you for the recommendation.
You're welcome, Philip.
Hi Edgar, are you still planning on doing this? Also, do you have a complete list of every book/thesis/etc. you've written? I've recently been reading through each one lf your works that I've been able to find. -Kelton ❤️
Hi Kelton, one issue is that I don't own the rights to my Christology book. So I don't know if it will be edited. My CV is somewhere on the blog. I don't mind sending it to you. Remind me if I forget.
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