Sunday, July 31, 2022

John 17:3: "their taking in knowledge of you"

Greek (WH): αὕτη δέ ἐστιν ἡ αἰώνιος ζωὴ ἵνα γινώσκωσι σὲ τὸν μόνον ἀληθινὸν θεὸν καὶ ὃν ἀπέστειλας Ἰησοῦν Χριστόν.

Previously, John 17:3 in the NWT read this way: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ."

2013 Revision:
"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."

Did the older translation mean to imply that head knowledge is all someone needs to have eternal life? Does head knowledge alone save us? Could someone get eternal life without knowing a lot about God?

We can answer the first two questions negatively, but the third question, affirmatively.

1) We need more than head knowledge in order to get everlasting life; a lot of people can memorize Bible scriptures, places, names, and even how the verse should be applied. However, that is not enough to obtain everlasting life.

Even back in the 2/15/1975 WT (pages 113-119), these remarks were made:

Getting to know God, then, involves knowing both him and his Son. Jesus Christ pointed this out when saying in prayer to his Father: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of [or, “knowing,” An American Translation] you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3) Such “knowing” of God and his Son is not just head knowledge, acquired information. It actually means to recognize the authority of God and his Son and to submit to it.

Two points we can extract from the paragraph above is that "taking in knowledge" then meant, "knowing" God, not just knowing facts about him or his Son. Secondly, the WT clearly states that head knowledge is not sufficient: one must know God and his Son.

2) As a Witness, I've been taught that it's not just what someone knows but how much a person loves what he/she knows about God. We take in knowledge of God in order to know him, not just know about him. Furthermore, knowing God means obeying his commandments--putting into practice what we learn. See Hosea 4:6; Philippians 4:8-9.

To illustrate, a man might get to know facts about a woman, whom he wants to marry: he learns her likes, dislikes, facts about her family and how she feels about children, handling money and how she relates to her family. Without acquiring these facts, could the man ever come to know the woman? Yet the acquisition of facts would not be enough to know another person: it's necessary but not sufficient. We can say the same for our relationship with God.

While I think NWT 2013 improves the former translation since it captures the inceptive and telic aspect of the verb in John 17:3, I do not believe the older rendering meant that knowledge was sufficient without knowing God. That simply is not true.

 

 



8 comments:

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Roman said...

I highly recommend Yoram Hazony's chapter "Truth and being" (7) in his "The Philosophy of the Hebrew Bible," and chapter 6 "Jeremiah and the problem of knowing."

I think that the Hebrew "worldview" has a practical notion of being and knowledge: to know something is to engage with it, and what something really is is what it proves to be, what it does and continues to do.

I.e. knowledge is not a kind of platonic static knowing, but an continual engagement with something.

Here's a lecture by Hazony on Truth and Being:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Yvb_7asRg

Edgar Foster said...

Thanks, Roman. I will watch the video, and I agree that knowledge can mean engagement with something. Peter speaks of dwelling with one's wife "according to knowledge" (1 Peter 3:7) and John emphasizes that knowing God means doing what he commands (1 John 2:3-6). Also note the use of ginosko in Luke 1:34, which goes back to Cain "knowing" his wife.

I'm not saying that ginosko is only or primarily sexual but the point is that knowledge is more than the acquisition of facts from the Judeo-Christian perspective. A person can have all the head knowledge in the world about plumbing but if he never applies what he knows, can it really be said that he fully knows the subject?

Edgar Foster said...

Hazony's lecture is interesting, but I must say that I heavily disagree with his theory of truth and the way he reads the Bible. I'm not advocating Platonism but to insist that we cannot whether something is true until tomorrow seems off to me. The prophets indiciate that we can trust in YHWH today, not that we have to take a wait and see attitude. As for truth is ordinary things, I think we have many examples in that area too. Just some initial thoughts on his lecture. Thanks.

Roman said...

The way I understood it, (at least how I want to understand it), is that what makes something true determined in relation to its future. I.e. what makes us able to trust Jehovah today is based on what will happen in the future. As for more mundane truth, I think the idea is that what makes things true is not isolated from final causes, or the relations between the object and its future, this is a theme in Pannenberg, like things can be retrospectively true, (Zizek makes similar points).

Edgar Foster said...

Admittedly, I'm trying to understand his claims better, but so far, I take Hazony to be claiming that we can trust divine utterances, but we have to until the future to find out whether a tent peg will function properly. He also seems to deny that we can reason our way to the truth.

But maybe he's making different claims.

Edgar Foster said...

This piece deals with Pannenberg and Hazony: https://analytictheology.fuller.edu/hebraic-pannenbergian-accounts-truth/

Roman said...

Thanks for that article, it's a good primer on this point of view.