Monday, December 12, 2022

Final John 1:1c Quote For Now (G.G. Caird, The Language and Imagery of the Bible, P. 102)

 

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Anonymous said...

You do know that verse breaks in a text are a modern invention, right?
Read on into 1 Corinthians 9:21. Isn't this called context along with all the other things Paul became.

If you cannot provide me with a single quote that is repeated, where the one uses Israel and the other uses Jew, then there is no where to go on this. This is quite easy with the "god" and "heaven" example.

A sect is not a religion. The "little anointed ones" as it should be translated.

https://www.bible.ca/d-jewish-sects-pharisees-sadducees-essenes-zealots.htm

Compare Acts 24:5.

I am going to call it a day on this discussion.

aservantofJEHOVAH said...

Yes the Pharisees did a lot of proselytising
Matthew28:15NIV"“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are."


aservantofJEHOVAH said...

@ Duncan:Would you like to revert to discussing John1:1c which was after all the substantive topic of the post? Any thoughts on that?

Duncan said...

I can add nothing new to that discussion. It has been done to death, thousands of times over. I am much more interested in what 1:1a has to offer, in relation to the writing as a whole.

aservantofJEHOVAH said...

Romans3:29"* Or is God the God of the Jews only? is he not of the nations too? Yes, of the nations too,"

Duncan said...

https://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/brill-s-new-pauly/ethnos-e12221690

Duncan said...

https://www.anumuseum.org.il/the-myth-of-the-ten-lost-tribes-article/

Duncan said...

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%94%CE%B8%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82

1. group of people: tribe, family

Duncan said...

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=47985#:~:text=The%20word%20goy%20technically%20refers,colloquially%20refer%20to%20non%2DJews.&text=Central%20Semitic%20noun%20*g%C4%81y%2D%2C%20tribe.

Duncan said...

https://www.livius.org/pictures/israel/jerusalem/jerusalem-temple-complex/temple-inscription/

https://lexicon.katabiblon.com/index.php?lemma=%E1%BC%80%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%B5%CE%BD%E1%BD%B5%CF%82&diacritics=off

Duncan said...

"Another route for determining the meaning of mispahot in Genesis l2:3 is to compare reiterations of the promise (ll). In this case, we discover that three passages (of five total) read goyim (nations, peoples) instead of mispahot. The Hebrew goyim is roughly equivalent to the Greek ethne of Matthew 28:l9 (l2). This interchange between mispahot and goyim in five passages containing the same promise provides good support for the TEV/NIV rendering "all the peoples" in Genesis l2:3 (l3). "

https://www.ijfm.org/PDFs_IJFM/01_2_PDFs/1_2%2520%2520Showalter%2520All%2520the%2520Clans%2520fixed.pdf

Edgar Foster said...

We're at 211 comments in this thread (two pages), mostly not about John 1:1c. So I'm going to lock this thread soon. Thanks.

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